Comments on: Some notes about the workshop http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/ Getting together in Florence: keeping track of memory, forgetting and learning in communities of practice Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:21:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Learning Alliances » Analyzing audience feedback http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-2630 Learning Alliances » Analyzing audience feedback Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:58:24 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-2630 [...] about it quite a few times since then, perhaps because of the strong feelings I had after our workshop at the Prato Conference during the same month. Capturing feedback in a wiki is an interesting example of how technology [...] [...] about it quite a few times since then, perhaps because of the strong feelings I had after our workshop at the Prato Conference during the same month. Capturing feedback in a wiki is an interesting example of how technology [...]

]]> By: Learning Alliances » How long is our collective “now”? http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-2629 Learning Alliances » How long is our collective “now”? Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:47:39 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-2629 [...] are risks when you assume that the context is a longer relationship than is really the case. People may be offended by the assumption or its apparent consequences. At the CIRN conference in [...] [...] are risks when you assume that the context is a longer relationship than is really the case. People may be offended by the assumption or its apparent consequences. At the CIRN conference in [...]

]]> By: Learning Alliances » Blog Archive » How long is our collective “now”? http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-125 Learning Alliances » Blog Archive » How long is our collective “now”? Sat, 23 Dec 2006 19:58:43 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-125 [...] There are risks when you assume that the context is a longer relationship than is really the case. People may be offended by the assumption or its apparent consequences. At the CIRN conference in Prato last October, Patricia Arnold, Beverly Trayner and I appeared to be assuming too much familiarity. [...] [...] There are risks when you assume that the context is a longer relationship than is really the case. People may be offended by the assumption or its apparent consequences. At the CIRN conference in Prato last October, Patricia Arnold, Beverly Trayner and I appeared to be assuming too much familiarity. [...]

]]> By: Learning Alliances » Blog Archive » Analyzing audience feedback http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-78 Learning Alliances » Blog Archive » Analyzing audience feedback Thu, 30 Nov 2006 05:38:03 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-78 [...] Although Nancy White’s posting on “Feedback from Sydney LearnScope Event” was written at the end of her marathon in Australia, I’ve thought about it quite a few times since then, perhaps because of the strong feelings I had after our workshop at the Prato Conference during the same month. Capturing feedback in a wiki is an interesting example of how technology inherently changes our experience of face-to-face meetings just as it changes what’s possible. Reading what the more than 64 people said about the session with Nancy was a bit overwhelming so I made a note to myself to come back and take another look. One easy way to do it was to put the comments into a tool like http://tagcrowd.com/ (a tool that happened to hear of from Nancy). Here’s the output: [...] [...] Although Nancy White’s posting on “Feedback from Sydney LearnScope Event” was written at the end of her marathon in Australia, I’ve thought about it quite a few times since then, perhaps because of the strong feelings I had after our workshop at the Prato Conference during the same month. Capturing feedback in a wiki is an interesting example of how technology inherently changes our experience of face-to-face meetings just as it changes what’s possible. Reading what the more than 64 people said about the session with Nancy was a bit overwhelming so I made a note to myself to come back and take another look. One easy way to do it was to put the comments into a tool like http://tagcrowd.com/ (a tool that happened to hear of from Nancy). Here’s the output: [...]

]]> By: Christina http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-54 Christina Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:24:03 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-54 If it fits into a bigger whole! ;) If it fits into a bigger whole! ;)

]]> By: btrayner http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-53 btrayner Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:54:50 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-53 Are you offering to do that evaluation Christina? :-) I think you'll find memories of the reasoning behind using the blog scattered in the CP2 space and the telephone notes or recordings. In many online communities flickr has become a fairly standard shared practice for sharing photos at conferences. The wiki is the CIRN conference wiki. I'm not sure if anyone has put anything about our workshop in it yet. Are you offering to do that evaluation
Christina?

:-)

I think you’ll find memories of the reasoning behind using the blog scattered in the CP2 space and the telephone notes or recordings.

In many online communities flickr has become a fairly standard shared practice for sharing photos at conferences.

The wiki is the CIRN conference wiki. I’m not sure if anyone has put anything about our workshop in it yet.

]]> By: Christina http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-52 Christina Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:06:29 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-52 As for the different layers of interaction: We talk about the photos taken during the workshop in Florence here, don't we? I'm asking this as I found out that some participant(s) of that very workshop do not have a hint of what's been discussed here in the blog. One more stupid question (forgive me): Did you clarify why you decided to use the different "layers of interaction", i.e., the CP2 space, the blog here, flickr (somehow) and now also wiki to discuss about one event? Was it simply an experiment or has the benefit of using different tools been evaluated or are you going to do that? As for the different layers of interaction:

We talk about the photos taken during the workshop in Florence here, don’t we? I’m asking this as I found out that some participant(s) of that very workshop do not have a hint of what’s been discussed here in the blog.

One more stupid question (forgive me): Did you clarify why you decided to use the different “layers of interaction”, i.e., the CP2 space, the blog here, flickr (somehow) and now also wiki to discuss about one event? Was it simply an experiment or has the benefit of using different tools been evaluated or are you going to do that?

]]> By: btrayner http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-51 btrayner Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:23:08 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-51 Given that taking photos has become quite standard practice for conferences I'm also interested in the question of why the people who objected didn't say anything when we started taking them. That doesn't detract from the pertinant question it raises about taking them and about informing people what they will be used for. It's more a question about how we structured the workshop that even people who are used to attending conferences, doing research, and who are used to being assertive, didn't feel comfortable enough to object to photos being taken - even when they felt strongly about it. Given that taking photos has become quite standard practice for conferences I’m also interested in the question of why the people who objected didn’t say anything when we started taking them.

That doesn’t detract from the pertinant question it raises about taking them and about informing people what they will be used for.

It’s more a question about how we structured the workshop that even people who are used to attending conferences, doing research, and who are used to being assertive, didn’t feel comfortable enough to object to photos being taken – even when they felt strongly about it.

]]> By: andyroberts http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-50 andyroberts Sun, 15 Oct 2006 09:12:08 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-50 I feel that the ethical question over needing permission to take photos has been largely overtaken by technology. I live in a part of London where there are more surveillance cameras per square metre than anywhere else on the planet I think, so my image is being captured and processed every time I walk down the street or use a bus, train, shop - anything. And they are connected to facial recognition software too. ( See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/202024.stm ) Then from other members of the public, nearly everybody is carrying a mobile phone which also serves as a camera or video camera and you can't tell when they are being used. So the concept that you own the rights to your own image is really only enforcable if you are fabulously rich and famous. What the people who demand privacy seem to be insisting upon is the right to conceal the truth to others about where they have been, what they did and who with. I feel that the ethical question over needing permission to take photos has been largely overtaken by
technology. I live in a part of London where there are
more surveillance cameras per square metre than anywhere else on the
planet I think, so my image is being captured and processed every time
I walk down the street or use a bus, train, shop – anything. And they are connected to facial recognition software too. ( See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/202024.stm )
Then from other members of the public, nearly everybody is carrying a mobile phone which also serves as a camera or video camera and you can’t tell when they are
being used. So the concept that you own the rights to your own image is really only enforcable if you are fabulously rich and famous. What the people who demand privacy seem to be insisting upon is the right to
conceal the truth to others about where they have been, what they did and who with.

]]> By: Christina http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-49 Christina Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:51:23 +0000 http://pratodialogue.wordpress.com/2006/10/10/some-notes-about-the-workshop/#comment-49 Does anyone fear that their personality might be misinterpreted or that they might even get fewer contracts in future due to certain pictures taken and presented on the web? Of course, this is not the case. It's simply ridiculous. Anyway, can we afford to expose our "private life identities" to the world, to potential employers? Pictures could be taken by persons who are not benevolent towards us - and we might not even realise it. Any thoughts? Does anyone fear that their personality might be misinterpreted or that they might even get fewer contracts in future due to certain pictures taken and presented on the web?

Of course, this is not the case. It’s simply ridiculous.

Anyway, can we afford to expose our “private life identities” to the world, to potential employers? Pictures could be taken by persons who are not benevolent towards us – and we might not even realise it.

Any thoughts?

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